TSA goes after man who dared defy their ultimate autority!

This story has everyone talking, and rightfully so. John Tyner refused to go through the “nude body scanner” and refused to go through a “groin check” and now, is being targeted by the TSA for leaving the security area.

Michael J. Aguilar, chief of the TSA office in San Diego, called a press conference at the airport Monday afternoon to announce the probe. The investigation could lead to prosecution and “civil penalties” of up to $11,000, he said.
TSA agents told John Tyner on Saturday that he could be fined up to $10,000.  

“That’s the old fine,” said Aguilar. “It has been increased.”

Penalties for what?

“The requirement for all the passengers is that once they enter the screening area and submit themselves to the screening process, to complete the screening,” said Aguilar. “This passenger took exception.”


At question is how far the TSA can intrude upon our persons to allow us to board an airliner, and if the invasive body checks, and nude scanners are a threat to our liberties. And of course, who knows where the images of our naked bodies will end up? Certainly, one could easily see how images of a famous person might bring a healthy price tag.

One way or another this story will end up changing the manner in which Americans are screened at airports. Here is a roundup of what other bloggers are saying and reporting.

Donald Douglas has some updates and a video of Tyner on Fox News

Clifton asks the obvious question about payback. And sees a unlikely union joining forces to fight this battle.

Tyner was given a choice, submit to a search he found offensive or not fly.  He chose the latter and now they are going to investigate him for making that choice?  I don’t understand how he could have left without permission when he was escorted out by security.  I think TSA is looking to make an example out of Tyner so that no one else thinks to stand up for themselves. The whole thing reeks of Big Brother throwing its weight around.
I must say, the left was correct on this issue.  You will recall back in the days shortly after 9/11 many on the left squawked about trading rights for higher security.  Meanwhile many of us on the right were willing to make the trade.  Ten years later as TSA starts to push its weight around, we are starting to see the light.  Perhaps now that the left and right are on the same page, we can come together to demand the effective security we all deserve.
Bluegrass Pundit wonders if the TSA would be worse if they went the union route. One guess as to how he answers his own question
As if Americans didn’t have enough complaints about the TSA, the Federal Labor Relations Authority has decided they can unionize. Instead of letting them unionize, we need to fire them all and disband the TSA.

The Washington Post reported:

In a significant victory for federal employee unions, the Federal Labor Relations Authority decided Friday that Transportation Security Administration staffers will be allowed to vote on union representation. The decision clears the way for a campaign by the government’s two largest labor organizations, the American Federation of Government Employees and the National Treasury Employees Union, to represent some 50,000 transportation security officers.

Cubachi, shares some news that might offer a solution, airports, can, but will they choose to opt-out?

The TSA screenings and pat downs have become the biggest topic of conversation across the country. Even in Europe, the Germans are upset about this and are demonstrating their frustration with these invasive searches by protesting in “flesh mobs” in German airports. All of us are aware of the invasion of privacy and incredibly uncomfortable nature of these pat downs, not to mention the amount of radiation these screenings produce. Just today, news came out of 100 naked body scan pictures were leaked online.

However, did you know that local airports can opt out of TSA screeners at checkpoints?

Byron York has more:

The 2001 law creating the TSA gave airports the right to opt out of the TSA program in favor of private screeners after a two-year period. Now, with the TSA engulfed in controversy and hated by millions of weary and sometimes humiliated travelers, Rep. John Mica, the Republican who will soon be chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, is reminding airports that they have a choice.

Mica, one of the authors of the original TSA bill, has recently written to the heads of more than 150 airports nationwide suggesting they opt out of TSA screening. “When the TSA was established, it was never envisioned that it would become a huge, unwieldy bureaucracy which was soon to grow to 67,000 employees,” Mica writes. “As TSA has grown larger, more impersonal, and administratively top-heavy, I believe it is important that airports across the country consider utilizing the opt-out provision provided by law.”

Of course,a s we all know, and as Doug Powers points out, we are so obsessed with NOT PROFILING,that accosting toddlers is OK. Jim Hoft points out that the Fourth Amendment has become the latest victim of this perverse fixation on political correctness!

Ed Morrissey at Hot Air looks at what else our Big Brothers are looking into controlling, for our own damned good of course!

Remember, in Hopenchange, everything not expressly permitted will be outlawed.  In an attempt to deal with the supposed epidemic of distracted drivers, especially younger drivers, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced that the Obama administration will review its options in blocking cell phone use in cars:

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said using a cell phone while driving is so dangerous that devices may soon be installed in cars to forcibly stop drivers — and potentially anyone else in the vehicle — from using them.

“There’s a lot of technology out there now that can disable phones and we’re looking at that,” said LaHood on MSNBC. LaHood said the cellphone scramblers were one way, and also stressed the importance of “personal responsibility.”

Moonbattery has news that a “certain religion” might mot have to endure such indinities though. Any guess which faith that is?

Nuns who don’t want to pose naked for sniggering bureaucrats are left with the option of a public groping, but the Muslims who instigate this insanity with their terror attacks can’t be expected to endure such indignities. They’re special, after all.

William Teach asks about the whereabouts of a certain four-letter group?

Leave it to the ACLU to ignore an issue that has Americans, both Left and Right, up in arms. Have you ever noticed that the ACLU tends to ignore the real issues 90% of the time? And the other 10% of the time, they usually do the right thing for the wrong reason(s). Witness the national ACLU

The ACLU said, “[During] the new standard pat-down, a screener of the same sex will examine your head, shirt collar area, and waistband, and may use either the front or back of his or her hands to feel your body, including buttocks, around breasts, and between the legs, feeling up to the top of the thigh. Women in tight skirts that don’t allow an agent to feel the thigh area may be asked to remove the skirt in a private screening area and will be given a gown or towel to put on.”

If you search the ACLU website, there is zip. Nada. Zilch. Nor any complaints from the national ACLU in the news about people getting groped and abused. A few State ACLU chapters have chimed in, but, they don’t seem all that concerned, either.

Jill ponders whether or not these searches are actually useful, or perhaps just a cheap thrill?




Pilots and flight attendants also object, and one pilot has filed suit:


Although he has a libertarian streak, Roberts’ objection to the procedure goes beyond personal privacy and political philosophy. He says the screening just doesn’t work. It doesn’t improve passenger safety or deter terrorism. It’s just another example of the federal government closing the barn door after the horse gets out, and violating the rights of the innocent to make it look like the government is doing something about security.

Roberts notes the progression of this liberty-leeching invasion:

After the shoe-bomber attempt, we had to remove our shoes. After the underpants bomber, we had to be electronically strip searched and groped.

What will happen, he asks, after the first time a terrorist smuggles a bomb on a plane inside his rectum or in a breast implant?

There was a time, not too long ago, when that would have been a comedian’s witty one-liner. Now, it sounds more like the future rushing upon us.


SilverFiddle offers an excellent take that is well worth your time. And Chris winds us up with some humor, that makes a great point!

8 thoughts on “TSA goes after man who dared defy their ultimate autority!”

  1. WAITWAITWAIT!!! Back up, I think I saw something! Yeah, here it is: it was never envisioned that it would become a huge, unwieldy bureaucracy which was soon to grow to 67,000 employees,” Mica writes. “As TSA has grown larger, more impersonal, and administratively top-heavy, I believe it is important that airports across the country consider utilizing the opt-out provision provided by law.

    An elected bureaucrat, who helped WRITE the damn thing (which I don’t believe at all, these guys don’t do the dirty part of the work anymore, do they?), is surprised it became a top-heavy administrative nightmare of a bureaucracy??? Call the men in the white coats and put this idiot in a rubber room, he’s obviously more delusional that The Current Occupant!

    I was one of those who questioned the ‘rights’ people were willing to give up from the very beginning. The prohibition against profiling – which insults members of every religion except main-stream Christianity, I guess – has made us look like a bunch of bullying wet hens, panic-stricken and ineffective. What exactly is wrong with using the Israeli way, and putting TRAINED people at the security gates, who not only know what kinds of things to look for, but may also have many actual faces commited to memory?

    It’s only a testament to dumb luck and the bumbling of our enemies that another 9/11 doesn’t happen once a month.

    C’mon, Mica, get your head out of your ass and look around at the REAL world. And get your colleagues and constituents to do the same.

  2. Ya know, there’s a reason why I haven’t flown since 9/11, nor do I ever intend to fly on a commercial plane again, and it has nothing to do with a fear of terrorists. The federal government has decided that political correctness is more important than terrorist profiling at airports, and until they start behaving like rational adults in this matter and stop hassling average Americans, I’ll be driving everywhere I go.

  3. Damn Doug. This is the most comprehensive post on this that I’ve seen. Well done. You’re going to be a source on a post I will be doing on this nonsense.

  4. how far the TSA can intrude upon our persons to allow us to board an airliner

    We used to answer that question via Natural Law.

    the left was correct on this issue. You will recall back in the days shortly after 9/11 many on the left squawked about trading rights for higher security

    Let’s not forget there were plenty on the right, those “evil” paleocons and “libertine” libertarians who refuse to follow movement orthodoxy warned of this stuff too. I’ve been one of those on the right who has been outspoken against the security state. Robert Nisbet, Russell Kirk, and Richard Weaver all warned our foreign policy would lead to this … We chose to listen to Bill Kristol and Dick “I heart Big Government” Cheney instead.

    Maybe, just maybe … us old time conservatives know what we’re talking about after all.

    Trust in the government has led to its obvious conclusion … the USA now looks like the old USSR. So long freedom, and thanks for all the fish!

    Great post!

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